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Old 20-07-2017, 07:05 AM
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Default My most burning question LOW RISK BUY?WHERE? WHEN?HOW?

MY most burning question

How do you buy or trade with low risk?

ONE GUY SAID TELL ME HOW MUCH RISK YOU AIM FOR AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE SOLUTION.

Risk-how much to take-a story

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Eod traders LIMIT max risk 7% -ref W O Neil

BROKERS ADVISE TO TRADERS -MAX RISK 2%

Trapped traders expert Mark chapman -max risk 0.31%
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ok
I settle for 0.31% max risk.

why so? are you crazy ?
was the question I got.

I said worst gamblers lose 25 times in a row.
Traders are worse than Gamblers. we take 26 losses into consideration FOR TRADERS.

better aim for 26 losses in a row and aim to survive your trading beyond this point
26times 0.31 =8.06 %
still capital of 90% in tact.
preserve the capital-is the only way to go.

I told him this.
after that he is not saying anything.
pindrop silence

my question is undoubtedly a champion thing
At the least I have a great question.

can somebody help with the probable best solution?
All I KNOW IS THIS
With the regular conventional thinking
nobody can solve the problem.
we need unconventional thing with awareness above the level of the problem.

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2 things to consider:

1. Risk to reward ratio of your trading method
2. Money management

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with 0.31% , may be not enough room for the trade to play out, its like assuming the trade to run after the position is taken, and one more thing 26 can turn to 260 and 2600, no one can say, and add to it real time slippages, its more than what one theoritically calculates.
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OFTEN TRADERS COME SAYING
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.
this is insufficient
that necessary thing is missing

Is that really so?

Depends on the traders awareness of market environment and context.

When I asked a trader trading over 15 years how much stoploss do you need in futures trading? he said minimum 15%.
The next thing i found is he wiped his account. one blow out.

see the picture. self explanatory.
By the way
There is no sales indicator nor do i sell stuff for others.
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OFTEN TRADERS COME SAYING
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.
this is insufficient
that necessary thing is missing

Is that really so?

Depends on the traders awareness of market environment and context.

When I asked a trader trading over 15 years how much stoploss do you need in futures trading? he said minimum 15%.
The next thing i found is he wiped his account. one blow out.

see the picture. self explanatory.
By the way
There is no sales indicator nor do i sell stuff for others.

Find 100 examples of the pattern in question. See how many of them fail, how many of them work out the way you have shown in the image and how many hit T1 and then dont move any further. How many hit T2, how many hit T3, etc.

You took one very good example of a pattern working out. But in real trading, it is not so simple to find such patterns in realtime.

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Find 100 examples of the pattern in question. See how many of them fail, how many of them work out the way you have shown in the image and how many hit T1 and then dont move any further. How many hit T2, how many hit T3, etc.

You took one very good example of a pattern working out. But in real trading, it is not so simple to find such patterns in realtime.

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even if u find , trading execution is another ball game altogether, for stops , may be a whole new thread is required.
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even if u find , trading execution is another ball game altogether, for stops , may be a whole new thread is required.

Forget execution.. It is easy to post perfect pattern examples. But when it comes to real trading, most traders will end up either passing on patterns that work out later on or else take trades in patterns that are not perfect.

Trading patterns is not easy and the mind can play all sorts of tricks when you start to trade chart patterns!

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Forget execution.. It is easy to post perfect pattern examples. But when it comes to real trading, most traders will end up either passing on patterns that work out later on or else take trades in patterns that are not perfect.

Trading patterns is not easy and the mind can play all sorts of tricks when you start to trade chart patterns!

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realtime mai aisa phati hai ki, pattern kya samne order daal ne ki bhi himmat nahin hogi
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My friend has this habit-give him anything however useful, he will start saying this is not good that is not good.
I dont mind it at all.

hE SAID RISJK IS VERY DANGEROUS. I said -trading is risky. you must try to trade with minimal risk or trade risk free overall.
He said - you cant trade risk free.
I said you can trade risk free overall. means in 10 trades fail 4 times but overall no risk.
ALL you need to know is
make a right entry
know proper initial stop and
finally only if you know exactly when to move your intial stop to entry or breakeven.
once done trade risk free.

The pity in the city is traders have system which have price moving only towards stop
All I ask is
Do you have a better alternative than what I HAVE?
Can you contribute a better thing than this?

HE BECOMES SILENT.

I asked him-show me how to trade with 0.31% risk?
eVERSINCE HE is not saying anything at all.total recall.

mY teacher used to give only questions and ask us to come with answers.
Slowly slowly we fell in his track.

I asked why you do this sir?it is so difficult. he said-
try by yourself come up with solutions.
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when it comes to trading nothing is easy. one has to work develop ways to overcome problems with thinking before entering a trade and trying for better execution-This area is skill based comes only with time and practice. Like getting a car but one has to drve the car himself.Google cant help drive a car.a good instructor only can help. Finding a good trading mentor itself isa difficult job-once done,50% job completed.

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when it comes to trading nothing is easy. one has to work develop ways to overcome problems with thinking before entering a trade and trying for better execution-This area is skill based comes only with time and practice. Like getting a car but one has to drve the car himself.Google cant help drive a car.a good instructor only can help. Finding a good trading mentor itself isa difficult job-once done,50% job completed.

Finding a trading mentor is not the only way to learn to trade. And it is also not fool proof. You need to find a method that works for you, not one that works for someone else.

The best trading mentor is the market itself. Learn to use the market as your mentor and tutor :-)

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