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Old 08-09-2010, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by no1lives4ever View Post
These days tablets are of 2 primary types:

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2. Notebook/Netbook type devices - Mostly these are regular notebooks or netbooks with a touch screen which can be turned around to fold over the keyboard. Almost all of them come with some version of Windows. These devices never picked up much. The big advantage of these devices is that they use regular Windows, but that is also a disadvantage, as most windows apps are designed for use with a keyboard & a mouse. This type of a device is your only bet if you want to run a trading terminal like ODIN or PIB. Look at these devices like a regular notebook, which can be used in a tablet format.

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Can Netbooks multitask well? Like with Ami, Firefox, PIB open & running simultaneously? What are the best choices in this category? Most come with Intel Atom processors & 1GB RAM. Are there any that have at least 2GB RAM? (And 8hrs or more of battery back up is a MUST).
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IMO notebooks/netbooks/tablets etc should be used only in case of compelling situations like away from your trading station/ long power failure etc. IMO its no substitute for the workhorse like Desktop.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ntrader View Post
IMO notebooks/netbooks/tablets etc should be used only in case of compelling situations like away from your trading station/ long power failure etc. IMO its no substitute for the workhorse like Desktop.

Actually it depends. These days most notebooks are good enough as a primary workstation. Unless you need huge cpu power for lots of backtesting, most trading tasks can be done with a bottom of the line notebook with a dual core cpu + 2gb ram + 80GB Hdd. Such a system from dell would cost u less than 40k.

I am a software developer who develops in Java & sometimes MS Visual C++. This calls for a reasonably powerful system, yet since past 5 years, my primary computer has been a notebook. . If you look around, you can find very decently speced systems which are as good as any desktop out there. Check some of these systems:

Thinkpad T series, e.g. T410s
MacBook Pro - Check out the 15" & 17" models
Sony Vaio Z - If you want something portable and yet powerful, this is the ultimate machine you can get. It is almost as small and light as a MacBook Air, while being more powerful than the previous generation MacBook 15" systems.
And many more similar systems....

Almost any 17" notebook you find in the market can be used as a desktop replacement. And they even come with a full sized keyboard.

In Tablet PC space, check out the ThinkPad X series tablet pcs. These are pretty expensive, but they are reasonably small and are essentially a notebook with a rotateable touch screen. These typically use marginally slower cpus than mainstream notebooks, but for trading you will not really notice the speed difference.

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Well operating economy has to be seen in terms of time and money also.
If I can spend a fortune even my laptop can crunch teraflops also.
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IMO notebooks/netbooks/tablets etc should be used only in case of compelling situations like away from your trading station/ long power failure etc. IMO its no substitute for the workhorse like Desktop.

Yep, a good powerful desktop is still the best for me No great love for Netbooks really (Hate the 10inch screens & cramped keyboard as well) But the power backup is handy Will have to spend quite a bit of time (sometimes the whole day) at construction site offices where the power lines will be temporary ones, susceptible to voltage fluctuations & surges; so do not want to plug on my lappy & the battery back-up is around 2.5 hrs.

There are notebooks that give 6-7 hrs backup power So that's another (more expensive) option, in case a Netbook is not upto the job.
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Samsung N210, 220, 230 - each claim to have ~12hrs battery backup This though is in ideal conditions & 1GB RAM. With 2GB RAM & multi-tasking the backup i reckon will come down to no more than 6hrs. Saw it running a couple of Office apps, Win Media Player & browser (running YouTube video) simultaneously. Seemed Ok (hopefully will be a little better with 2GB RAM).
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Samsung N210, 220, 230 - each claim to have ~12hrs battery backup This though is in ideal conditions & 1GB RAM. With 2GB RAM & multi-tasking the backup i reckon will come down to no more than 6hrs. Saw it running a couple of Office apps, Win Media Player & browser (running YouTube video) simultaneously. Seemed Ok (hopefully will be a little better with 2GB RAM).

Price tag ?
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20-22k I'm inclined to the N220 which with 2GB RAM would go up to ~24k.
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Thanks.
Price is attractive. Screen size 10 inch is too small .
But can it run MS , Metatrader , Ninja ,Pib ,Odin and their datafeeds
along with some other Excel applications simultaneously without problem ?
How much is the Hard drive capacity ?
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There are a few Netbooks with higher screen size (Asus has one) but the battery backup is lower. (Tablets also have similar screen size, don't they?) HD is 160GB for N220, 250 GB for N230.

Don't think it can handle so many apps simultaneously. Plus the more apps you run the higher the battery drain. I only need Ami (that too not all the time), PIB & Firefox (where i can limit to 2 tabs open at a time).
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