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TRIM improves the performance of SSD by wiping unwanted blocks of data.
Windows 7 automatically detects SSD and TRIM is generally enabled.

U can check thru command prompt by using this command.
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
If the result is 0, then TRIM is enabled..
else use this command to enable
fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0
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Originally Posted by whatsinthename View Post
except for the last point i was supposed to do everything. thks for the additional info. will do that too! btw how it will help me and what exactly is TRIM

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TRIM improves the performance of SSD by wiping unwanted blocks of data.
Windows 7 automatically detects SSD and TRIM is generally enabled.

U can check thru command prompt by using this command.
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
If the result is 0, then TRIM is enabled..
else use this command to enable
fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0

Like Santosh has pointed out TRIM increases performance of SSDs and if you are installing Windows 7 or 8 onto a new SSD, TRIM is almost always enabled by default. Here are some articles on this topic for further study:

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...e-disable.html
http://lifehacker.com/5640971/check-...e-in-windows-7
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/sto...ance-and-trim/
http://www.buildcomputers.net/trim-support.html

BTW.. We are still waiting for your report on how the SSD is performing in your system.

The 120GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD is for around 6k from Amazon.in, flipkart and other online retailers. SSDs are not all that expensive these days.

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thks no1 & santosh! wud do the needful....

@no1 - gimme 3-4 days to let u knw abt the performance

cost was not the criteria. but availability is the headache. you would be surprised to know that the 2 biggest distributors here dont keep samsung SSDs and only order as in when required. infact i had to first pay 5800/- for it with delivery which is after 3-4 days! these idiots only keep and push kingston!

when i asked them the reason - they simply said:
1 - less demand for SSDs in general as comparatively its costly
2 - only informed ones like me (courtesy @no1 & inditraders) come and ask for samsung, sandisk and others

btw online you can also get refurbished ones for a cheaper price. but i opted for a new one from a local distributor as it was cheaper than the online ones. also if anything wrong happens i can at least settle it here

currently my new system is i7 + 16gb ram and believe me its working like makkhan with atleast 10 memory sucking apps working together. i am more than excited to see the performance once SSD is fit .

to top it all, i also went for a new bsnl connection of 8 mbps till 15GB & 512kbps beyond (only for trading purposes) and planning to go for YOU broadband which has some mind boggling plans till 50 mbps (only issue is a laundry list of blocked sites which are mostly torrents related )
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Even high end laptops like the following do not come with SSD . or with low capacity like 8GB SSD . Is it possible to add SSDs to laptops ? If so how ?

http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideap...2-0e5ee47ad93b
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Even high end laptops like the following do not come with SSD . or with low capacity like 8GB SSD . Is it possible to add SSDs to laptops ? If so how ?

http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideap...2-0e5ee47ad93b

SSDs are expensive, so you will not see them in a lot of laptops. Sony Vaio Z was one of the first high end laptops that came only with SSDs. These days Apple is the only manufacturer that gives SSDs across the range of their laptops.

Most laptops that come with SSDs will come with 128GB or 256GB SSDs. Higher capacities, when available are an expensive option.

For almost all laptops that use a spinning HDD, you can replace the HDD with a SSD. For a lot of laptops, this is a fairly simple user level swap. Keeping both the SSD and HDD is not an option with most laptops. For some models, you can get kits that will allow you to replace the optical drive with a second HDD, on those systems you can add a SSD and retain the spinning disk.

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dear sunshine - with the same mentioned config by u, couple of months back i bought dell laptop for 62k! in dell, same config lappies are cheaper than other brands. point is as per requirement u need to understand different series within a brand with almost same config to finalize it.

coming back to ur question, as @no1 said u can fit SSD in a lappie in exchange of ur cd-rom drive. else u need to get rid of HDD. both cnt co-exist with optical drive. i wud personally wont suggest you this as my dealer gave me the same proposition for an alienware upgrade but wasn't confident!

as far as high end lappies are concerned, go for value for money ONLY i.e. dell latitude 12 7000 series which offer SSD of 128-256gb with i3/5/7 config starting from 70k to 150k!

i have to buy another lappie and would buy this if NIFTY reaches 8000 by july-august 2014!

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Even high end laptops like the following do not come with SSD . or with low capacity like 8GB SSD . Is it possible to add SSDs to laptops ? If so how ?

http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-ideap...2-0e5ee47ad93b


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Thanks Whatsinthename ! ( what a lengthy name ! how to shorten this )
My previous laptop HP's dvd drive gave trouble .So when I assembled a desktop instead of internal dvd drive I bought an external one .Actually nowadays I am not using dvd drive often .Now one external drive can be used for multiple systems . So replacing the optical drive will not bother me provided the technician should be an expert to not to mess with the SSD .
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Thanks Whatsinthename ! ( what a lengthy name ! how to shorten this )
My previous laptop HP's dvd drive gave trouble .So when I assembled a desktop instead of internal dvd drive I bought an external one .Actually nowadays I am not using dvd drive often .Now one external drive can be used for multiple systems . So replacing the optical drive will not bother me provided the technician should be an expert to not to mess with the SSD .

Replacing the optical drive of a laptop with a HDD is dependent on the laptop manufacturer. For many manufacturers, you can do a simple user level swap by buying a drive bay kit from the laptop manufacturer. This was the case with most older ThinkPad models from IBM/Lenovo.

For other laptops, you will need to get a laptop specific kit that will allow you to secure the hdd in the space vacated by the internal optical drive. Google for this information and try to find the relevant kits. You may need to order the kits from a foreign online retailer and get it shipped to india.

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1 .If we buy a Laptop with SSD or if we insert an SSD in place of dvd drive and if the OS is not installed on SSD is it better to reinstall windows on ssd or let it remain as it is because the factory would be better and cleaner ?
2. Which one will be better - system with preinstalled Windows or we assemble higher config for the same price and buy a Windows OS and installing it ?
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1 .If we buy a Laptop with SSD or if we insert an SSD in place of dvd drive and if the OS is not installed on SSD is it better to reinstall windows on ssd or let it remain as it is because the factory would be better and cleaner ?

You will need to re-install the OS onto the SSD. If you dont have the OS, your applications and most of your active data on the SSD, you will not see much advantage of using a SSD. For laptops with pre-installed windows, this can get a bit tricky as these days all windows laptops come with the OS on a service partition, which will be configured only for the HDD.

You should follow a guide to do a full clean OS install on systems which come with a pre-installed copy of Windows. There are such guides available for most laptop models. Most manufacturers have sections on their website where you can download all the drivers and system utility software. But this will not include all pre-installed software. Things like CD/DVD burning software, office trial, antivirus trial and most bloatware are typically not available as a download from the laptop manufacturer's site.

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2. Which one will be better - system with preinstalled Windows or we assemble higher config for the same price and buy a Windows OS and installing it ?

On a laptop, with pre-installed windows, you get tons of bloatware. Many companies even charge extra for a bloatware free windows install. For personal laptops, I normally preffer to just uninstall all the bloatware apps from a pre-installed windows setup. On corporate machines, I would go about preparing a custom windows image and only include the laptop specific drivers and software besides any other software required for use in the company.

For most laptop brands, getting all the drivers and other essential system utility software can be a hassle, so I would not recommend that to a novice.

For experts, installing windows from scratch can be the best solution. You could do this either with a separately purchased copy on a machine w/o windows. Or you could do a clean install with original windows media if your machine comes with Windows pre-installed. When using original windows media on a pre-installed system, you use the licence key printed on the system to do the installation. This method is fully legal and supported by microsoft. You do not need to pay for a second licence when you do this.

Search for clean install guide for your laptop by searching google for "<laptop model> windows clean install" e.g.:

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=HP+ENVY+Tou...+clean+install

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=sony+vaio+f...+clean+install

You should do this search before you purchase the laptop to see if there are any potential issues with doing a clean install of windows on the laptop in question.

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