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Old 03-02-2010, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shiree View Post
When To Quit Your Day Job
by Jim Wyckoff


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this link also should be posted in the thread - who are full time traders.I dont Know but there is something lack of conviction in the article, cant able to agree with the article fully, cant point it out exactly, may be latter, what other guys think?
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this link also should be posted in the thread - who are full time traders.I dont Know but there is something lack of conviction in the article, cant able to agree with the article fully, cant point it out exactly, may be latter, what other guys think?

Follow the link given in Prasad's post. May be you will find answer there.
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this link also should be posted in the thread - who are full time traders.I dont Know but there is something lack of conviction in the article, cant able to agree with the article fully, cant point it out exactly, may be latter, what other guys think?

It is the irony of a full time vendor/part time trader advising people when to quit their day job when he himself mentions he doesn't trade full time.
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It is the irony of a full time vendor/part time trader advising people when to quit their day job when he himself mentions he doesn't trade full time.

That's standard industry practice
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That's standard industry practice

Yes sir,but articles like that usually follow a gentle friendly sales pitch for seminars/mentoring to help the newbies.

First scare and then offer "help" kind of snake oil sales tactics.
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Ok so he is the snake oil vendor, thats why i was feeling something wrong, a lack of conviction is there in all snake oil vendors, we just feel it, dont we?
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Originally Posted by trader08 View Post
My friend mail me interesting article about price and volume relation, what i share here...

Price + Volume = price movement, by Tim Ord

I use a lot of different indicators and methods, but one that has been consistently successful is the price/volume relationship at support and resistance levels. Support or resistance areas occur at previous highs and lows. Prices bounce off previous highs and lows and develop trading ranges. I will show you how price and volume react to previous highs and lows, and why price pushes through or reverses at these points.

SWINGS

Previous highs and lows in a stock or index define current support and resistance areas. A previous high or low in a stock or index is referred to as a swing. I draw a horizontal trendline from the previous swing high or low to determine at what price support or resistance will appear in the future. These previous swing highs and lows are points where I make decisions for placing buy or sell orders. The horizontal lines drawn from previous highs and lows indicate where the support or resistance may come in. The line graph of a stock or index in Figure 1 illustrates a swing high and low.
By studying the works of Richard Wyckoff, the master of price and volume, I have developed some rules using the price/volume relationship. Wyckoff developed techniques in the 1930s that combine price and volume of equities with price predictability. The techniques he developed stood the test of time and still work to this day. I expanded on his ideas and came up with several rules that I use daily in my trading. Let’s go over these rules and look at a price history to see where buy and sell signals developed.

TRADING RULES
Here are the rules that I follow, using price and volume to determine buy and sell signals on the Nasdaq Composite and the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) indexes:

1 When price tests a previous high or low on an 8% or larger decrease in volume and closes back below the previous high (or above the previous low), it implies a reversal. The market needs to break the previous high or low, then close back into the trading range.



2 When price tests a previous high or low on a 3% or smaller decrease in volume, it implies that the high or low will be exceeded.



3 Always compare the volume relationship to the first high or low, even on the third and fourth retest. The buy and sell signal relationship stays the same (Figures 4A and 4B). It’s not the volume figure that is important on a retest of previous highs or lows, but the percentage increase or decrease in volume relative to previous highs or lows. These volume relationships will signal if the market will pass through or reverse at these previous highs and lows.



4 When markets break to new highs (or lows) on near-equal or increased volume, then reverse back into the trading range, the last high (or low) will be at least tested, and possibly rally through to the next swing high or low. But how do you tell if the last high (or low) will be tested and then reverse or continue through? The answer lies in the volume.
• If volume is at least 8% lighter on the test of high (or low), then expect a reversal.
• If volume is within 3% on the test, then expect continuation.



5 Markets that break to new highs or lows on 8% or greater decrease in volume and close outside of the trading range imply a false break and will come back into the trading range.



6 Tops and bottoms of gaps act and work the same way as previous highs/lows and previous support/ resistance zones. The same volume percent relationship works with the gaps as with retest of previous highs and lows.



Note: If the market cannot take out the previous high on near equal or greater volume, it will reverse and try to take out the previous low of the same degree on near-equal or greater volume. The reverse applies for the lows.

i wonder when volume is much higher ( 7% something) which article suggests is negative (base for VSA?)what will be actual delta(higher price volume-lower price volume)? Any views?
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Starting from the simple ground that the logical action of a stock was to decline when offerings exceeded the number of shares bid for, and to advance when the amount bid for was greater than the amount offered, we agreed that the quantity or volume of stock changing hands in each succeeding transaction was of great importance. Anyone who undertook to read the minds of the momentary buyers and sellers was able to measure, to a certain degree, their eagerness or anxiety to buy or sell; also to measure the force of the buying power or selling power as shown by the number of shares; and to judge of the purpose behind the action, whether it was to buy without advancing the price, or to force the price up, or to mark it down, or to discourage buying or selling by others, as the case might be.

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