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Bhai main May se long thaa...




M not saying that shorts r not risky, or don't go long.

What I mean to say is in case of positional trade won't be long with fut., Will buy equity, & if situations seems wrong, will short fut.

in case of a wrong move because of any nesw/situation, if my equity value goes down, I will be earning on short, and what-ever I earn from that particular short fut, will use to average the cost of that equity only.





regarding your latter part, its like the thing you tried few months back (I think it was u, sorry if not) buy & sell nifty futures together... maybe diff months make money on any one & then sell later to make money on the other the above you said sounds like that... IMHO
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right bro.it was me

was experimenting on spread trading, though it was on paper only..(remember Garbage House ?)

but this is different , in market language called arbitradging.

successfully doing it since last 6 months with Essar Oil.



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regarding your latter part, its like the thing you tried few months back (I think it was u, sorry if not) buy & sell nifty futures together... maybe diff months make money on any one & then sell later to make money on the other the above you said sounds like that... IMHO

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is it necessary ?


For a person who can not spare time acording to F&O requirement have to invest instead of trading always
staying always 90% in cash is also not a solution
yhe stocks trading 4-5 tyms above, y not short ?

Most of stocks Like HCLTECH HAVELLS CROMPTON and many more at 4-5times of BV still showing uptrend who dare to short them and stock which are not in F&O how to short in cash

the stock, seems kissing the earth........y not short them too...
Stocks at earth and good beta like ZICOM from 98 to 40 still good moves sometime UC with BV 88 who dare to short it in cash
why a trader should invest ?

When a trader have cash an dont have courage to trade in F&O due to not having continuous time what he should do????

Today I was on 5500 put and when saw taking time and customer keep on coming I booked small profit(GOD IS GR8) and later saw mkt at 5450 I was expecting 5420 and IF had time must had waited but opposite can also happen so exit in that case what is or what can be done

still none of Large cap showing sign of bottoming out so no reversal expected soon eye on EDUCOMP now
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after burnning my hands in SBI I decided never to go long specially Futures.

even won't leave equity naked if have in portfolio, & will short fut, & speculate.

What says ?

when everyone saying and expecting 1900-2000 range in SBI why you chose to go long even Rumour of SBI Right issue at 1800 is everywhere and I posted that many time

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yeh to ab kahaa jaa rahaa hai naa jab after result SBI broken.....

else who could have expect that it will break by 500, when it was trading on 2600 ?

I didn't knew abt right issue.

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when everyone saying and expecting 1900-2000 range in SBI why you chose to go long even Rumour of SBI Right issue at 1800 is everywhere and I posted that many time

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When a trader have cash an dont have courage to trade in F&O due to not having continuous time what he should do????

Not a issue bro.

Just imagine u have the stock in portfolio, short the Fut. Now even u don't look for 15 days because of any reason & stock goes down by 15%.

Now tell me what u loosed ?

& visa-versaa if the stock goes up.....

If u have tyme u can speculate with ur own convineance.

isn't it ?
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ur other issue

who dare to short on top.........

Well, if this is the question how a stock comes on bottom from top.....?
there is some one who is throwing it.......so y can't u or me ?

What if a stock is not in F&O.......?

Bhaiyaa main to aise stock se door hi rahtaa hun.....
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the scum bag sebi shud make futures not lots but single unit... but no they want people to over trade & loose their control in sharp swings even when they are on the right trades
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true.

I remember in 2006, after the crash, SEBI announced to introduce the mini lots of stock aswell Index in F&O.

In March-April 2007 the mini being introduced as Index mini lot & assured investors to bring the mini lots on stocks soon.

at that tyme, if my memory works fine, the lot of bhel/SBI/LT etc were 75.

since 2007 till now in 4 years the mini contracts of stock has not been introduced but these idiots made the lots nearly double.

this is Indian fundaa & excercise of saving the retail investors..........



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the scum bag sebi shud make futures not lots but single unit... but no they want people to over trade & loose their control in sharp swings even when they are on the right trades

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Not a issue bro.

Just imagine u have the stock in portfolio, short the Fut. Now even u don't look for 15 days because of any reason & stock goes down by 15%.

Now tell me what u loosed ?

& visa-versaa if the stock goes up.....

If u have tyme u can speculate with ur own convineance.

isn't it ?

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